Hi there F4C4Ever! Glad to see you made it!

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maynard god's plans are his own and he can work good out of anything, even a suicide. i hope that judas is in heaven now, it would make me sad if he were not let in. without judas' 'betrayal' the story of jesus' death wouldn't have quite as much power in my opinion.

Freak4Christ,

greetings to ya and welcome to WUG!!!

i pray that you be blessed beyond measures and that you be heavily enlightened, encouraged, and edified in Christ as you fellowship with us! i pray that the Lord's joy would be more than sufficient for ya while you are here! i pray that His peace ease out all of the uncertain-ties outta your life as well! i simply desire the Lord's best in and upon your life!!!

i do wanna clarify one thing, tho! it is true that all of our sins are forgiven! especially, when the Light first comes to ya and you receive and understand Him! scripture says that if you happen to sin after you have received Christ then don't worry, Jesus is your mediator! get out of it and give it to Him and He'll plead your case before the Father! (for He is between us and the Father)!

so, it is not wise to just continue in sin just because we know that we are forgiven! as Paul wrote, shall we continue in sin since we know that grace abounds, GOD FORBID! WHY? because the wages of sin is yet death!

i believe that if someone deliberately continues in sin, after receiving the Lord, they don't truly nor really love the Lord! hence they would die separated from Him! God always and forever looks at the heart of man! nothing else but the heart! and only God knows the heart of a man!

if one can be transformed by the renewing of the mind, meaning putting on the mind of Christ [btw, if we really have the mind of Christ then we would definitely not even consider killing ourselves for He thought not to kill Himself], - but if one can be transformed, one can be re-conformed to the world!

Christ said to whom you lend your members, you are its servant! whom do you serve!

and personally, if God would've allowed us the short-cut way out then their would be no need for martyrs and plus many of a Christians would hop quick, fast, and a hurry to get out of this filthy world! (there are many unpainful ways to commit suicide ya know!) we long for the manifestation of the Kingdom of God! but Christ said if we suffer with Him then we shall reign with Him! - just my humble opinion on that note!

stay strong and forever joyous in Christ!!!!!!

Hey Rachel,

Well, I can't pinpoint the verse or chapter, but I remember a verse saying in the bible that God will never cause you to go through an ordeal that you can't handle. Never. So, all these people around the world who have committed suicide believing their life is already over, have made a mistake because they were able to handle their problems, they just never tried to.

Another reasoning about suicide saying that people who commit suicide go to hell is faith. Faith is the most important aspect in being a Christian, and even if someone has asked to be forgiven before they killed themselves, they have still given up their faith nonetheless. Jesus suffered every possible thing imaginable when he was on earth, but he still had faith in the father. He was a martyr, and it says in the bible that the kingdom of heaven belongs to those who suffer for the sake of the Lord. Then there are those who are so desperate to be with God that they want to kill themselves, this I'm not sure of because their faith is so strong they choose to be with Him; but then again, they never took the time to suffer as Jesus did. It's like trying to get an A on a test but you're so psyched to get to your results which you already know are gonna be good, that you decide to just skip the test in the first place. Sounds like a corny analogy, but it works.

We don;t know for sure, one way or anotehr. God gives us no assurance that we are saved if we commit suicide.

Philippians 1:21 "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain."

Do you think Paul had suicide in mind when he wrote this ATW?

No, Servant, The Holy Spirit is preaching about this on Moody radio right now 89.3 Romans 7, Romans 8
Let the Word of God saturate you and control your thinking processes. it is so good. Turn it on if you can!

He's telling us to drink the Word and feed the inner man on the Word and strengthen our spiritual muscle :p :p :p

I'm glad to hear that. I was confused, this being a thread started by a young person asking about suicide.

Readers like myself, who are unaware of what you are listening to on the radio at the moment can only go by the thread topic and connect the two as I did.