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#16289 - May 22, 2003 08:58 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible
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if anyone had reason to hang it up it had to be Paul
but he didn't because his faith was real
He knew the Truth.
He trusted God with all that he had
with a thankful heart
Lord
forgive me please for being so weak and faltering in the faith
Lord don't let me be a weaklink any longer
build my faith God
Please God give me and servant and all of us giant faith in You Alone
Thank You Jesus for answered prayer according to Your perfect holy and pleasing will.
Amen
Hallelujah Jesus our Lord!
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#16290 - June 17, 2008 08:25 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible
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this site has remained quite a blessing to many,
wouldn't you agree
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#16291 - July 12, 2008 06:11 AM Re: Suicide in the Bible
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Here is one verse.

Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (NIV) Leviticus 19:28
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#16292 - July 12, 2008 10:24 AM Re: Suicide in the Bible
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nice try, thumb wink GG Grace,
but I don't think it pertains to suicide

Lev 19:28 as found on blueletterbible.com:

Available Translations and Versions for Lev 19:28

KJV - Lev 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.
King James Version 1611, 1769


NKJV - Lev 19:28 - 'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD.
New King James Version © 1982 Thomas Nelson


NLT - Lev 19:28 - "Never cut your bodies in mourning for the dead or mark your skin with tattoos, for I am the Lord.
New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust


NIV - Lev 19:28 - “ ‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.

New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society


ESV - Lev 19:28 - “You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord.

The Holy Bible, English Standard Version © 2001 Crossway Bibles


RVR - Lev 19:28 - Y no haréis rasguños en vuestro cuerpo por un muerto, ni imprimiréis en vosotros señal alguna. Yo Jehová.

Reina-Valera copyright © 1960 Sociedades Bíblicas en América Latina; copyright © renewed 1988 United Bible Societies.


NASB - Lev 19:28 - 'You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.
New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation


RSV - Lev 19:28 - You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh on account of the dead or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Revised Standard Version © 1947, 1952.


ASV - Lev 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am Jehovah.
American Standard Version 1901 Info


Young - Lev 19:28 - `And a cutting for the soul ye do not put in your flesh; and a writing, a cross-mark, ye do not put on you; I [am] Jehovah.
Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info


Darby - Lev 19:28 - And cuttings for a dead person shall ye not make in your flesh, nor put any tattoo writing upon you: I am Jehovah.
J.N.Darby Translation 1890 Info


Webster - Lev 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.
Noah Webster Version 1833 Info


HNV - Lev 19:28 - "'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you. I am the LORD.
Hebrew Names Version 2000 Info


Vulgate - Lev 19:28 - et super mortuo non incidetis carnem vestram neque figuras aliquas et stigmata facietis vobis ego Dominus
Jerome's Latin Vulgate 405 A.D. Info

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#16293 - July 12, 2008 08:47 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible
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Quote:
Originally posted by gracegreciagracet:
Here is one verse.

Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (NIV) Leviticus 19:28
This is Jewish law. I know Jewish people who say someone can not be buried in a Jewish cemetery if they have a tattoo. What do you think of that?<font color="black">

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#56257 - December 26, 2008 07:04 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible [Re: last resort]
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From what I understand, most of the jews in the time of Jesus simply dropped off corpses at the city dump.
I don't know about you, but if the dump is their cemetary then I'm quite comfortable with not being buried there.

Most of the "accepted doctorine" surrounding suicide comes from Saint Augustine of Hippo, and his book, The City of God.
It goes on at various points to some great lengths about why people that have committed suicide are going to hell. Cato and Lucretia, a few other cases.
The meat and potatoes of it are here:

"And consequently, even if some of these virgins killed themselves to avoid such disgrace, who that has any human feeling would refuse to forgive them.? And as for those who would not put an end to their lives, lest they might seem to escape the crime of another by a sin of their own, he who lays this to their charge as a great wickedness is himself not guiltless of the fault of folly. For if it is not, lawful to take the law into our own hands, and slay even a guilty person, whose death no public sentence has warranted, then certainly he who kills himself is a homicide, and so much the guiltier of his own death, as he was more innocent of that offense for which he doomed himself to die. Do we justly execrate the deed of Judas, and does truth itself pronounce that by hanging himself he rather aggravated than expiated the guilt of that most iniquitous betrayal, since, by despairing of God's mercy in his sorrow that wrought death, he left to himself no place for a healing penitence? How much more ought he to abstain from laying violent hands on himself who has done nothing worthy of such a punishment! For Judas, when he killed himself, killed a wicked man; but he passed from this life chargeable not only with the death of Christ, but with his own: for though he killed himself on account of his crime, his killing himself was another crime. Why, then, should a man who has done no ill do ill to himself, and by killing himself kill the innocent to escape another's guilty act, and perpetrate upon himself a sin of his own, that the sin of another may not be perpetrated on him?"

Anyway, lengthy and obtuse as it is, that and the other collected writings of Augustine are the primary reason that it is the accepted stance of the Catholic Church that ALL people who commit suicide are going to burn in fire everlasting.
Of course, this does come from the same church that sold indulgences for about as long as they could get away with it.
"Your salvation for a silver peice" or something similar to that.

The only other place I've ran aground the topic of suicide in Christian theology is Martin Luther. When he came across a boy who had hanged himself and was being denied a christian burial because of hanging himself, he took the boy's corpse to the cemetary and persuaded the gravekeeper to let him bury the boy by saying something similar to
"The boy is no more to blame for succumbing to his madness than a man who has been killed by a brigrand in the forest is to be blamed for being dead"

So like somebody pointed out earlier, it depends.
Personally, suicide isn't something I would recommend.

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#56266 - January 14, 2009 01:01 AM Re: Suicide in the Bible [Re: Kyuss Wren]
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There must be some kind of `madness`, (for want of another word.... maybe the word should be `torment`), to make someone take such steps. And I believe Satan plays a part, by enforcing the belief on the individual that their circumstances are indeed hopeless. Also, what about `the 11th hour`? When people are saved at the last minute, like someone on their death bed, or someone who was brought back from the brink of suicide by a change of heart, sometimes by hearing or feeling what they said was Gods saving grace. I believe that no-one knows what happens between God and that individual in that 11th hour...and since we can be saved in a heart beat, we can be saved in the time it takes for that persons life to end.

Ive also tried to find what scripture says on this, cos its touched my family, and I thank God that there IS an 11th hour... and tho we only know part things, and we`ll know the whole thing one day, God willing... we have the certainty that our God is truely merciful and loves us, and knows us better than we know ourselves. Pray bow2

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#56428 - August 06, 2009 09:43 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible [Re: astral]
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What about this one?

maybe this is the only acceptable(?) way of taking one's life.


King James Bible
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
>>John 15:13<<

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#56436 - August 13, 2009 12:00 PM Re: Suicide in the Bible [Re: mashpotato]
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Seems to me there is a difference between the "laying down" of one's life and the "taking of one's life". The former implies a subjugation to the will of another (in Jesus' case, he did not take his own life but subjugated Himself to the Roman's crucifixion) while the latter denotes the concrete action of suicide.

If a soldier jumps on a grenade to protect his comrades, this would not be considered a suicide. But if that same soldier took the grenade from his pack, pulled the pin and THEN jumped on it...well, you get the picture.
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